Again, look at the trap speeds for the typical base rsx and then what mt got for the 5spd 2. When turbocharged the engine could produce 400550 hp in very super. You must use a block off plate, an oil filter relocation kit use all parts from the k24a series engine to place the oil filter to the upper position you will also need to plug an oil port on the girdle as well as change to a k20a2 oil pump. Im at 234whp all oem with a 08 k24a2 with,gopower k24 headerfull race 3 exhaustrrc manifold08 tsx tbinjen cai50 vtc gearrdx injectors with a rsx oil pump, j37 tb, and 3. Hi all, i come to you all humbled, and in dear need of help.
K20k24 on the dyno jdm ek9 honda civic type r forum. Hey fellers, new member here, i did something pretty neat today and i figured id share to see. There have always been two big hurdlesthe high watermarks of 500 hp and 10,000 rpm. I had some questions i wanted to find an answer to.
I have a ktuned cold air intake, and i wanted to hear the vtec crack a little more so i did a quick and cheap little. Team 20s all motor itb k20k24 eg project hondaswap. Never got a chance to run it on the gas before i sold it or turn it higher than 8000rpm. We throw troy wynns all motor stock k24 on the dyno and see how much power we can pull from it. Discussion and questions related to the course motec m1 software tutorial.
The whole point of the k20 k24 frankenstein is added torque and retaining k20 horsepower. Its by no means the better choice but the appeal of a higher revving engine is what sold it for me. Official allmotor dyno chart thread 8th generation honda civic. With my current set up based on other peoples builds i was anticipating making. Or should i just attempt to use a k24 kpro basemap put in excel and copy the values over to flashpro. I always wanted to dyno every single modification on a k24. Im following multiple threads for the diy k24 swap, particularly the one by rick1024, as his was very well. Other than a custom exhaust and intake setup to accommodate the swap, and some supporting fueling modifications, the engine is pretty much stock. Here a little impression from d day, hope you all enjoy. So after seing the dyno i posted above which i imagine is the closest thing for me to run off of since our mods will be nearly identical along with. Usually substantially upping the stroke on a naturally aspirated engine will produce enormous torque, but at the expense of maximum rpm, as the risk of bending a rod tends to increase. I put 900 miles on the engine and now im having bad chain slap and.
Erik loza also got tuned that day with his k24 with rbc and stage 1 toruku cams and has the dyno which shows ours results overlayed and you can clearly see how the rbc puts the power on top. Each combo was fully tuned, we werent just bolting on parts and doing dyno pulls. Wilson and his gang at 4piston have been building the k24 engine platform for multiple years, aiming at. Additional dyno details like frictional losses in the dyno system which affect the torque and hp recorded, correct for engine inertia effects when running an accelerating test which is all inertia dyno tests, dimensions and weights of more inertia dyno components, etc. Using a hubbased dynapack dyno, the k24 powered s14 produces 203 whp and 175 lbft of torque, which is healthy, if a touch underwhelming. All tunes are done with the common 50 degree vtc intake cam gear swap instead of the 25 degree stock tsx unit. Oct 21, 2014 hello ephatch, i finished my k24a2 swap finally. I have 2007 civic ex and im wondering which would be better based off or your personal opinions and experiences.
In every naturally aspirated engine k20a and k24 engine we have tuned, the. Honda kseries k20, k24 swap guide part 1 speed academy. You can see from the graph that all the tq was made as expected in the midrange but because it fell so quickly so did peak power. Headphone users turn it down he isnt messing around. The k20a2 was known for its ability to become a 250 whp all motor street screamer. Stock bottom end k20, stage 2 cams, and vp m1 fuel has this lightweight honda civic into the 10s all motor. K24swapped s14 240sx track build hits the dyno hondatech. And the k24 is such an amazing motor for na or boost. You will be amazed to find all the powerful, yet easytouse features in our software, and surprised that we can still keep our costs so low. Hondata fully tunable ecus for allmotor and forced. Another k24k20 frank project, shooting for 260whp honda. Many of the rsx owners have been putting k24 blocks into their rsxs for the great tq they produce.
From base map creation to the last dyno pull youll see the entire tuning process from start to finish. So all youd need is to get the block and cam chain to put the engine in the rsx and hope that it still clears the hood, as the 2. The point of this thread is to compare dyno tuned charts to compare low, mid and top end gains to benefit helping us all understand where power was made and using what mods. Description the 4 piston racing super99 k440 drag race engine is specifically designed to put you at the. Hondata fully tunable ecus for all motor and forced induction honda and acuras. Standalone tuning systems dyno tuning engine tuning. As you can see from the accompanying dyno sheet and graph, 4piston easily eclipsed their 500 hp goal with a peak of 519 hp at 9,400. Building the ultimate k24 part 1 the cylinder head. Have you looked into the stock block k24 dyno thread. As always, arm yourself with a factory service manual for assembly procedures and torque specs.
I started before christmas, and im not finished yet. Troy is running a stock k24 with 50vtc, plm header, ported rbc intake, 800cc injectors, bosch 044. Just recently finished building a k2024 motor myself with the mods listed below. Good friend got his all motor hatch tuned and made great power at altitude. Apr 18, 2017 4piston racing builds a 518 hp, naturally aspirated, dragspec k24 power plant. Tell me right quick which intake manifold will go best on my k20. Rbb diy instructions for your kseries engine and dyno. I decided to go with the k20 over the k24 since i wanted the extra revs for the track versus more torque that the k24 provides. With a few exceptions, were tucking a k24 block between all the good parts of the k20a2. Of course the b series is going to be easier to make the power of a k, but this is all motor. My car at the time was also having some engine issues so i parked it until the engine work was complete. However, his goals this time around are much bigger. With dyno pros advanced windows software, dyna run v3, operating the dynamometer is simple and user friendly.
Honda k20 intake manifold dyno faceoff tegiwa imports. Dynomite dynamometer manufactures engine dyno and chassis dynamometer systems. The only k24 one i saw was with the comptech scer and im sure not gonna put that one on. Initially i was going to go alone and just source a replacement head and be done with it, however instead i worked with mike kojima to come jump with a. In comparison to most aftermarket kseries cams, the drag cartel dropin camshafts run smoothly and quietly with no alarming valvetrain noises. The goal was to show off what can be done with a stock k24a2 engine 20042008 tsx in the miata chassis, as well as test out a couple new parts.
The k is a significant departure from the triedandtrue b series in several ways. Engine specs like bore, stroke, head descriptions, cam descriptions, etc. The race header really flexed its design more when we tested it earlier this year on a k20 k24 combo with some big cams, where it made more power over all other headers by about 3 hp. K20k24 hybrid engine build guide tech articles and more. Does anyone know or have done a k20 head swap onto k24 block. All of this came to its ultimate test on the dyno recently. Does it matter with the difference between the k24a1 to the k24z6. If you had an oem k24 block, the 250 mark would be a lot more achievable. Before putting in the current k24 in this eg, ahkeim was running stock k20.
In an all motor setup, the k and b are about the same. Standalone tuning systems when youre looking for the ultimate in performance, these stock ecu replacements are what youre looking for. The 500 horsepower naturally aspirated k24 engine by 4piston. Best of both worlds scenario what your suggesting is that the poster basically lose that combo with using k24 cams aka 0608 tsx cams. I fully realize this may be a dumb question and all, but i cant seem to find the answer despite my extensive searching.
Low dyno number with k2024 setup, advice 8th generation. Kmod stage 1 k24 circle trackendurance engine kmod. I have a 98 ls integra that i plan on putting this motor into so its all in the family here. K series all motor k24a budget 300whp build part 1. Performance trends has been doing racing software since 1986, so we know what engine builders need and how to make it easy. The type r cams you are running are not all that aggressive, it would be worth. K20 k24 build with dyno chart hi all, ive not been very active on the forums in the last year whilst ive been away from the car and the track but now im back as you might have seen as im selling lots of bits in the marketplace forum that are left over from my recent build. You can even add a standalone to control timing, electronic fuel injection, and other engine functions on earlier model vehicles that dont have an ecu. If an internal link led you here, you may wish to change the link to point directly to the intended article.
I do alllll of the work on it and he forks out the coinage. The mill you see in the photo above is a k20a2 from an 03 acura rsx types. In addition to vtec, the k has variable cam timing. Alot of shops dont service their dynos like the one in my town and the calibrations will start to read lower or higher. For clarity, the dyno charts are presented in a different order than the order in. All wheel drive install 800hp civic egtc toyz visitjedijit and j bday congrats duration. Theres race design all over the motor, and when modded most likey it will show more torque than h. Then swap the k20 oil pump on and all the k20 sensors. Also we have to take into consideration about transfering all that horsepower to the wheels. This allows for dropin installation for the customer no matter where the engine is shipped to. Dynomax 2010 the ultimate dynamometer control, dataacquisition, and analysis software, puts an advanced dynamometer lab onto your windows pc or laptop. If the customers car is not available, we have project vehicles equipped to allow installation of any d, b, h or k series. This disambiguation page lists articles associated with the same title formed as a letternumber combination. The motor made a healthy 302hp with 210ftlb torque.
The pulleys comment, the majority of all the k24a2 ive run across that clip that number without opening up the top end. Dec 16, 2016 a 90mm bore with a massive 106mm stroke takes this k24 engine out to 2. All software is free for life and you will never be charged for standard software upgrades, if you purchased your dynamometer from dyna pro or one of its authorised distributers. Hey, ive been reading up on k24k20 frank all motor builds, and i was very fascinated. Tuning the tsx the acura tsx has an excellent pedigree. You still havent shown any proof at all with that dyno sheet supporting your claims. Build your own kmod engine, these kits are offered in 4 stages. Hey fellers, new member here, i did something pretty neat today and i figured id share to see what you guys think. Almost all kingbuilt engines get broken in on our dyno and tuned here to produce peak whp. I have seen it fits onto other k24 blocks like the a1.
He was just saying buy a k24 motor and bore to a 2. You could always take it to another dyno and see if the numbers are consistant. Nov 20, 2008 high comp k24 all motor map for start on vp m5. Id like to build an all motor kseries for a daily driveramature track car. K24 ek9 dyno run at kirkbride jdm dyno youtube on jdm dyno at kirkbride in cumbria. With my current set up based on other peoples builds i was anticipating making between 280300hp and 210230 ftlbs. K20 k24 hybrid engine build guide tech articles and more. Jul, 2010 the honda accord k24 engine is going to be the easiest to get and 95 percent of the time, the cheapest. I had the thing dyno tuned with inlinepro and currently working with vit last week and am a little disappointed with the numbers. We are a participant in the amazon services llc associates program, an. You can program any valve seat contour and the newen cuts it. Dec 09, 2010 with a few exceptions, were tucking a k24 block between all the good parts of the k20a2. Every thread in the motor is tapped in aluminum, an unforgiving material to a tyrant with a breaker bar. I installed skunk 2 stage 2 tuner cams, skunk 2 valve springs, skunk 2 titanium retainers, skunk 2 tensioner.
The software soon becomes your dyno and dynomax 2010s feature depth makes it the best at any price. Sorry guys i was on that mota mixing all this numbers engine setup up. Official dyno charts thread page 15 acura tsx forum. The k20a2 was known for its ability to become a 250 whp all motor street screamer with bolt on parts and make gobs more power na with internal mods. Last dyno run was only to 6950rpms cause it was just to see some base numbers and there was only 400kms on the motor. Tuned with kpro also by me made 244whp and 186wtq on stock k20a2 cams, dc tsx race header, custom cai, and custom 2. The point of this thread is to compare dyno tuned charts to compare low, mid and top end gains to benefit helping us. The infamous 4 piston super99 race engine dominates in the all motor ranks. It has been tuned by romain, at roger clark motorsports amazing dyno cell dyno dynamics. Hondata modifies standard honda engine computers ecus, adding features and expanding the capabilities of the ecu e.
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